ron, james, and jonathan, thank you all for your time tonight. and let me say that nelson mandela had a book come out after his autobiography "long walk to freedom." rick stangel put out a book of lessons mandela taught. he taught about reconciliation, he taught about what we need to do. and all that we hear in the coming days, let us try to hear mandela speak for mandela. and let us try to be a little more mandela-like. no, i don't think the president is right. we will not see another nelson mandela. it's not likely in our life time. but we can bring a little mandela in us and become better people in the spirit of nelson mandela. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. up next is a special edition of "hardball." an exclusive interview with president obama. >>> tonight, we bring you to my interview with president barack obama. we present it against the backdrop of the passing of his personal hero nelson mandela. an event which msnbc will be covering for the rest of the evening. i have covered two great world events in my career. one was the fall of